Meghan Markle shares how Prince Harry inspired the latest episode of her Archetypes podcast

For the final episode of her podcast Megan Markle was inspired by her husband Prince Harry include more male voices.

In the last episode of this season of archetypesthe Duchess of Sussex invited three men Andy Cohen, Trevor Noahand Judd Apatow, for the first time on her show, to discuss some of the stereotypes and gender roles that are holding women back. An idea that, as she reveals, came from her husband. “Well, if you’ve listened to the last 11 episodes, you may have noticed that you haven’t heard many male voices. In fact, until now, outside of a pop-in by my husband, this show has only featured female voices in the first episode,” Meghan said, referring to Harry, who stopped by to greet her first guest Serena Williams. “And that’s intentional. It was important to us that women have a space to share their authentic and intricate, complex and dynamic experiences. Be heard and understood.”

The king continued: “But through this process it also occurred to me – and at my husband’s suggestion to be honest – that if we really want to change how we think about gender and the limiting labels that we use Coming people in, then we need to expand the conversation… and we need to actively engage men in that conversation and certainly in that effort.” To that end, the Duchess has “brought some very thoughtful men into the effort. Men who have been behind some of the most successful films and television shows, but are also part of the cultural conversation in such a powerful way through their roles in the media and, for some of them, as husbands and fathers.”

During her conversation with Noah, Meghan opened up about the inspiration behind her children’s book The Bankbased on Harry’s relationship with her son Archie. “I wrote a children’s book that came out a year or a few years ago that was basically about that softer side of manhood,” she explained. “And how I saw my husband as a father and the example of that. That’s the person the boy can look at and say, “Oh, that’s what it means to be a man. This is the example. This is the person I can go to when I cry and this is the person who sits with me. This is the person who can put the plaster on my knee.’ And that that level of comfort can come from a male character in your life just as much as it can from a female character, but it also feels really good for those male characters. Being able to offer that and being able to show that part of your personality doesn’t make you any less masculine.”

At the end of the episode, the Duchess also took stock of everything she’s learned and all the amazing guests she’s spoken to over the course of this 12-part series. “I don’t know what I was expecting, but what came out was insightful and also ironic. Because even though this format is audio only and I use my voice every week, you can hear my thoughts without visual representation, but I feel seen,” she shared. “I never thought that using my voice would make me feel seen. But I do. And so much feedback from women throughout the season is that they feel seen too. As we heard today, men also see our experience differently now. you see us They see us more clearly.”


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