The opening pages of 1965 Journey into Mystery #112 watch Marvel’s god of thunder swoop down from the sky to disrupt what looks, from Jack Kirby and Chic Stone’s dynamic artwork, like a riot about to break out between two groups of angry teenagers and screaming. Thor’s thought bubble sets the scene for what’s going on: “Those young people seem to be arguing about who… is stronger… Hulk … or my self! ”
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Journey into Mystery The cover of #112 stated that ” Epic Battle of the times! The powerful Thunder God vs. So amazing Hulk! Here it is! The battle you’ve been waiting for! (Of course, whether fans are really waiting for the battle, or if it’s just Stan Lee’s brand hype, is an open matter.) The issue emerged just three years later. when the manga debuted both characters, and only one year after the two met for the first time as co-stars of the new movie that came out after that Avengers. Somehow, though, the Thor and Hulk rivalry seems to have become such a hot topic that Marvel is looking to cash in on it.
The thing is, Thor and Hulk aren’t really meant to be sworn enemies. They don’t share a common background – one is a sci-fi character, the other a supernatural/mythical character. Or power level – any battle between the two will really end in seconds because one of them is really strong and the other is really strong, is a real god, and can fly and weather control. Even so, Marvel has spent decades trying to convince fans that they do want the same thing as the teenagers from 1965. In fact, there’s a new war between Thor and Hulk coming in just a few weeks.
Here the fetch happened: “Hulk vs. Thor” is one of Marvel’s larger encounters, regardless of whether these slugs are quirky, trivial, or completely unnecessary.
Epic battle of the ages!
Most creators seem to realize how absurd the whole thing is and play into it. 1973 Defender #10, the battle between the alter egos of Bruce Banner and Donald Blake ends in a stalemate as the two wrestle each other in a stalemate for longer than an episode of Game of Thrones.
“Ten minutes they hold their posture, each one is tense futile to disrupt the status quo,” Steve Englehart quoted Steve Englehart as breathless. “20 minutes they hold! Thirty minutes! One hour! Neither Shows any signs of fatigue! ” (Their fight is eventually broken by other heroes arriving.)
That Defender basically, the fight comes down to, basically, a single wrestling match is remarkable. Like a road Journey into Mystery Thor and Hulk’s #112 is a question of pure strength. It was the only way for the rivalry to last beyond a few tables, and an ongoing theme of early attempts to discover and exploit fans’ desire to see the two fight – bright teams. Find a way to bring Thor down to Hulk’s level.
The earliest Hulk and Thor battles are history of the ways in which Thor was manipulated to his advantage. He asks Odin to un-magnify his hammer so he can prove himself stronger, he is blackmailed by Hulk to throw the hammer away, or he enters a contest of dodgy measurement. lose his honor if resolved by any other means than through force of nature.
Okay, this is the last sentence on the hype, but just enough; 1981 Extraordinary Hulk #255, Thor fails to convince anyone when he brags, “If we sound evenly, it was only because I asked for a favor from my noble father, Odin, lord of Asgard – that I could face you for five minutes without my uru hammer in A test of strength against muscle – tendon against hamstring ! Our fight then hesitated! ”
Guaranteed, God of thunder. Anything that makes you feel better. To be fair, Hulk is as trapped in this toxic masculinity contest as anyone; 1987 Mighty Thor #385, he screams, “Thor is Nothing! hammer is strong – not Thor! Set hammer down – Hulk only Friend!”
Dynamic competition – part defense, part brotherhood, all machines – has proven to be so powerful that it overtakes vehicles. When the 1970s Extraordinary Hulk The TV series was revived as a TV series in 1988, The amazing Hulk is back took Thor with him. 2017 Thor: Ragnarok gave Chris Hemsworth and Mark Ruffalo their best Marvel Cinematic Universe outings to date, repositioning their characters into a bickering, hostile duo akin to a relationship more of their comic book relationship – while funnier and more handsome, that’s pretty much what audiences have come to expect from the MCU at this point. Similarly, the two have faced off in animated incarnations over the years, including a 2009 direct-to-DVD film. Hulk vs. Thor cartoon. It’s safe to say that, if fans of either character have followed them in any medium long enough, they’ll see Thor and Hulk fight at some point or another.
So… what is it about Thor and Hulk that keeps fans and creators coming back?
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“I think it’s important that they give each other someone they can really liberate,” says Wil Moss, who should know – he edited both Hulk and God of thunder at current Marvel. “Both characters are insanely strong, in most battles they either have to hold back to some degree – or the story has to accept them one way or another – or they win battles pretty quickly. . So I think a big part of the appeal of the Hulk vs Thor fight is knowing that these two don’t have to hold back and it’s going to be a fight that you know is going to be a really memorable one. ”
The subject, admittedly, is something Moss has been thinking about a lot lately: Next month will see a release. Hulk vs. Thor: Banner of War Alpha #1, the one-scene story that sets the stage for a crossover between the two titles that runs through June. As the title suggests, it’s a storyline that will pit the two characters against each other one more time, but Moss teases that there’s more to it than just three non-stop months.
“Don’t get me wrong, there is a a lot of Hulk vs Thor fights in this story, but it’s not all keep it up,” he promised. “There are some twists and turns in this story that really increase the momentum between the two.”
Perhaps most surprisingly, Moss also promises that this latest bout will deliver something that over half a century of fighting has hitherto been hard to avoid: a clear winner. Are the teenagers arguing since 1965 final find out if Thor or Hulk is stronger? The editor, heeding the vandals, is playing it cowardly. “Writer Donny Cates and artist Martin Coccolo are finding a very surprising but ultimately satisfying answer to that question, which is all I will say.”
Finally, it may finally be here after more than half a century of turmoil and confusion, allowing everyone inside both the Marvel universe and the regular universe with enough peace of mind to move on to real topics. important. Really, can Marvel tie up with the United Nations to implement economic sanctions on Latveria unless Victor Von Doom resigns? How can anyone in the Marvel universe be an atheist when there are literally gods in the Avengers? And, most importantly, who is who stretching agent: Mr. Fantastic or Ms. Marvel?
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