Amber Rose, Julia Fox compare notes on dating Kanye West during joint podcast

Rose, who dated the rapper from 2008 to 2010, was a guest this week on the Fox podcast Forbidden Fruits, hosted by Niki Takesh. About 17 minutes into the conversation, Julia — who also dated Kanye for about six weeks in early 2022 — finally turned to the elephant in the room.

“Sooo, I don’t know if we want to talk about this or not,” she said, making her guest laugh. “I thought that would show up,” Amber said. “Anyway, we both made it, it’s fine. I literally get so much S— for this,” Fox added, before Rose joked, “Welcome to my life.”

Amber said West’s shadow still follows her all these years later. That being said, she also made it clear that she doesn’t “shy away from it because it’s a really big part of my story and how I got famous.”

“I think the funny part is I didn’t have anyone to look up to and say, ‘Okay, this happened to her, so it’s going to happen to me,'” she continued. “I was the first, I was the girlfriend and then all of a sudden I was walking around alone and paparazzi were following me around, alone, and I said, ‘I’m not famous, he’s not with me. You don’t have to follow me.'”

She explained that she was “surprised” by the media attention and claimed she felt “thrown in front of the sharks” because not even West warned her about the spotlight.

Discussing what West was like when they started dating, Fox said she has a theory that he “was always the same, kind of” but had gotten “more extreme” in recent years.

“I feel like he’s always had really lofty dreams and he’s always pushing the limits as much as he can, pushing the limits — like you tell the man no, he’ll find a way to get yes,” she called.

“I think he’s always been that person, I can tell he was very similar when we were together,” Amber said approvingly, before addressing some of his controversial behaviors. “Years of building it up will make a motherf—er look crazy after a while because you’re just sick of it. I definitely can’t make excuses for the things he says because I don’t agree with them.”

Looking back on her time with West, Rose explained how an invitation to appear in one of his videos turned into a relationship. She said they had just started hanging out and before things even got romantic, he invited her to attend the Grammys as his date. Rose, who flew to Los Angeles for the shoot and expected it to only last a day, had no clothes for such an event.

Explaining that he then took her on a huge shopping spree, Rose recalled having “tears in my eyes, I couldn’t believe it. I cried in the store. It was just shocking because I’d been so poor all my life and to have this ‘Cinderella’ or ‘Pretty Woman’ [moment].”

She then claimed that when she went home for a funeral, West checked in on her and told her, “Just come back to LA, just come over here and live with me.” She was shocked, since she didn’t even kiss him at the time, let alone had sex with him. Rose explained that she then returned to Los Angeles and insisted that they both get tested for STDs before doing the deed. “Then it was on and cracked!” she joked.

“He’s really charming when you really understand him,” said Fox, adding that West is “very receptive, very interested” and has “some really amazing qualities.” She said she too felt it was a “fairy tale” when they first started dating, but she sees it differently now.

“In hindsight, I think, okay, that might have been like Love Bombing,” she said, as Rose exclaimed, “Totally Love Bombing!” Julia then admitted she’s “a sucker for a good Love Bomb,” before adding : “If it seems too good to be true, it most likely is.”

Both women agreed that West is a great artist who is very talented and creative — although Rose added, “On a personal level, there’s a lot going on with him.” She added that she wishes him well, though she doesn’t keep in touch.

At one point during the conversation, Fox mentioned that West had told her he had met Amber at a restaurant while they were dating. “That was kind of hilarious,” Rose said of their brief interaction, which was the first time she’d seen him since their split. “I’ve never spoken to him in all these years,” she said, “but when he left he said, ‘I need to see my girl,’ and he talked about it You. It was so strange.”

Listen to the full conversation below.